Here's the side-on view with a front seat reclined: Note the leg position of the passenger in the rear seat: I'm in the shot below, and despite being bog-average in height you can still see how my legs are close to the rear of the seat without even the room to cross them. The more surprising feature that's lacking is inflight wifi. Oooo that seat pitch looks like economy of a few decades ago. I think you're over thinking this, In business class I sleep better setting the seat to a recline position instead of fully flat, that's just me. Apparently, the concept of design trade-offs is unknown for many here.... "...this is an Australian traveller website, where we focus on our Airlines...". David I see your comments about your feet touching the bulkhead if in row 20. Whilst NZ did make the right decision by removing the row of its ironically named Spaceseat, it blew up its economics and doomed it to the scrapheap. I measured 21 inches between armrests. At the time of writing and looking at the cost of Qantas Dreamliner flights to London for mid-March 2019, a return Economy fare starts at $1300 in Economy on sale. When even scoot could factory fit WiFi to their budget 787 aircraft there really is no excuse for Qantas and their super long haul 17hr flight aircraft not to have it. All the latest from the Qantas Frequent Flyer program including new partners, new rewards and more. That will probably need a rethink. Thai Airways 747-400 business class (upper deck) Sydney to Bangkok 05. This article is more proof how the QF 'Dreamliner' could be more correctly be called the 'Nightmareliner' (for all but the small number in business class.). Looks uncomfortable alright, that legroom is inadequate I struggle to think how they can call this premium economy, more like modified economy. If youâve forgotten your password, simply enter your email address That's also pretty clear cut too for me. Qantas CEO Alan Joyce (seated on the left) and CFO Tino La Spina (seated on the righ) test out the premium economy seat for the airline's new 787-9 Dreamliner … Correct me if I'm wrong. The new Qantas Dreamliner has now been in service for a couple of months. Find out more about inflight dining, entertainment, seat maps and more. Here's a shot of this in situ on the Boeing 787-9... ... and a clearer snap from the seat's launch earlier this year, which illustrates the difference once the seat reclines. Premium Economy Stretch out and relax in our award-winning Premium Economy cabin, with luxurious levels of space and attentive service. When will Qantas reopen its international lounges? "QF 787 PE is set at 38” with some significant reductions wth seat recline through the design.". Resend one to yourself here. There's nothing to communicate either of these points to passengers. But so far, the Qantas 787 reviews are mixed. If the above is true and seat/aisle width and recline are therefore irrelevant/not primary reason, "someone' should just "pay the price premium" for Y+ "in the first case"....it's far far cheaper for airline to develop and consumers to afford anyway... "Because QF overhyped their Premium Economy as..". Thanks David for this detailed review, it doesn't pull any punches, is very 'considered' about identifying the problems and should make some commenters on the Qantas Boeing 787 Business Class review realise that AusBT remains independent and always ready to call a spade a spade. Weâll send you an email containing the activation link. What a missed opportunity this is for QF and their beloved 789. There's much to like about Qantas' new premium economy seat, which sits in its own cabin of four rows with a 2-3-2 seating layout. Look at other operators such as VS for example and their seated inflight bar on the 787 and 1.1.1 business config. 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